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Anastasia Mak

Steve, thanks for your constructive comment. You seem to be a Hanoi expert, and I, who only spent 3 days there, am no comparison. Anyway, here is my clarification on some points that bothered you.

Me mentioning those restaurants being full of white tourists was merely an observation, and not a statement to show that street-eating Vietnamese are not affluent. I said it was a "bit odd" to see them full of white tourists because when traveling, I always prefer to eat at places where I can spot at least some locals (and preferably, mostly locals). But in this scenario, the air conditioning lured us in and we paid a higher price for (yes, more Westernized) Vietnamese food and for cool air. And the meal price was worth noting, I thought, just to show the difference of economics. (Therefore, a $5 meal is on the higher end of Vietnamese pricing (somewhat of a luxury), but on the low end for Westerners). I'm a sucker for street food, and think that we even could've had a much better $1 meal on the street (which we did later throughout our visit, but not that first day). In agreement with you, I don't think that eating on the street for locals has as much to do with their income as it does with their culture, their food preference, and their sense of community. But it is interesting to know that some Vietnamese, like your colleagues, don't like to eat on the street.

Regarding a number of lakes and parks, I stand corrected. Yes, Hanoi has more than one "oasis". What I should have said is, lake is the only Old Quarter's oasis - so I changed my sentence accordingly. But i still don't believe that central Hanoi has much green space - just look at how crowded the lake area is. Even a worker at our hotel, when I chatted with him about living in Hanoi, said he wished there was at least one more park a walking distance from him.

Le Pub? Yeah, that's the name. (But, what's a pub? It's a public house. By definition, a pub is more likely to be a hole-in-the-wall than a bar, a lounge, or a club.) And what's the meaning of "a hole-in-the-wall", anyway? To me, it means a small, rustic, unpretentious, no-frills place - and that morning, Le Pub appeared to be just that. Scratched-up wooden counters that open up to a street, barrels used in place of some tables/chairs (from what I remember). Breakfast was only served in that small front open area, so we didn't even see the back part of the pub. No many people were there, and our server (or could he be the owner?) chatted with us the whole time about Saigon. Does the pub's ambiance completely change at night when when the whole thing opens, and it starts hopping and is full of backpackers? Probably!! But that morning, it absolutely had a feel of a hole-in-the-wall, and we loved every minute of it. Also, consider that my space perception (coming from the States, where bars / restaurants tend to be larger) is different from that of, say, a Hanoi native. So, all in all, this one is just a matter of personal impression.

Thanks again for taking your time to comment, Steve.

Steve Jackson

I'm trying to get my head around your report.

Here goes:

"...it was a welcome break to sit down for lunch at an air conditioned cozy restaurant.For locals, such restaurants are a luxury, and it felt a bit odd to see these places full of white tourists. Locals mostly eat at street stalls."

Locals don't eat at tourist restaurants because the food is western or western versions of local food. Sure, the price comes in to it, but there are plenty of affluent people here in Hanoi. Among my colleagues at work, I (a foreigner) am the only person who enjoys eating streetfood. They prefer home cooking and more expensive restaurants.

"As Hanoi doesn’t have much green space, the lake is its only oasis, and locals come here in droves to do their morning tai-chi, their evening runs, for romantic dates, and for wedding photos. "

Well no green space except the gorgeous Botanic Gardens and the vast Reunification Park (formerly called Lenin Park). To say the lake is its only Oasis is just plain wrong. It's not even the only lake. A kilometre away there is a vast lake (Westlake)- and there are many others besides.

"I don't remember the name of this hole-in-the-wall"

That's no hole in the wall - it's a pub. Actually it's called Le Pub and it's quite a sizeable place. It's in the heart of backpacker land in the Old Quarter.

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